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The story behind my computer
Denshin
Beta Tester, Authorized Creator
It is a story of mystery indeed, it's bewildered many brains.
Little over a year ago, december 2012, I purchased a roughly 1000€ computer and ever since I bought it I've had the same problem every day, every time the pile of electric components has been running. The graphic drivers stop responding and resets along with random occasional bluescreens. These happen several times a day, regardless what program or game I am running.
I've had the computer in at least seven times last year with no progress to solving the problem because appearently, the computer works flawlessy at the shop.
They have:
- Run games, that normally screws over for me, on it whole days and nights with no errors.
- Run graphical stress tests for whole days.
- Routine check on every hardware component.
- Tested the computer with my own setup brought to the shop.
- Swapped graphics card from nvidia to amd.
- Reformatted the computer several times.
It works for them, but not for me. I've even had my comp set up at friends houses in the past and still experience these errors, if the problem happened to be it dont like being in my room.
The shop calls this the strangest case (no pun intended) they've ever dealt with, and they've pretty much ran out of ideas and I don't know what's kept me from throwing this thing out the window.
Just thought I'd share this devious information with anyone, because I could.
(sigh) technology.
Little over a year ago, december 2012, I purchased a roughly 1000€ computer and ever since I bought it I've had the same problem every day, every time the pile of electric components has been running. The graphic drivers stop responding and resets along with random occasional bluescreens. These happen several times a day, regardless what program or game I am running.
I've had the computer in at least seven times last year with no progress to solving the problem because appearently, the computer works flawlessy at the shop.
They have:
- Run games, that normally screws over for me, on it whole days and nights with no errors.
- Run graphical stress tests for whole days.
- Routine check on every hardware component.
- Tested the computer with my own setup brought to the shop.
- Swapped graphics card from nvidia to amd.
- Reformatted the computer several times.
It works for them, but not for me. I've even had my comp set up at friends houses in the past and still experience these errors, if the problem happened to be it dont like being in my room.
The shop calls this the strangest case (no pun intended) they've ever dealt with, and they've pretty much ran out of ideas and I don't know what's kept me from throwing this thing out the window.
Just thought I'd share this devious information with anyone, because I could.
(sigh) technology.
QUOTE (Trojan•Clinique @ Nov 8 2011, 08:06 PM)
Denshin is a rather overpowered class.
QUOTE (Lucas 
@ Jan 12 2012, 08:16 AM)
We're currently working on making Denshin less OP.
Comments
I am not a computer expert so the best advice I have is that
maybe its the power bar or electricity going to the room you use it in?
If it's not only your room, which might be near a super-master magnetic field, then I can think it's a disturbance in The Force.
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the outlets in your room/ freinds house are fridgeed
The power cable your using for your PSU is fridgeed (this is only a option if the shop is using their own power cable)
a capacitor might have blew out on your mobo ( this is a big one as any of many cap's on the board could cause inconsistent crashes by inconsistent i mean what your describing with it working only with in the shop and not for you)
possibly a bad CMOS battery ( do you find your pc also has a tough time keeping track of the time properly?)
OR the most practical and common occurrence is hardware not sitting properly by this i mean you arent opening the pc up and making sure everything is properly mounted after every "move of it" you do its common practice for a shop to take the panel off before working on the pc and checking for proper mounting but say when you pick it up from the shop it gets slightly jostled... now this wouldnt be a problem normally but say if you have a faulty bay screw in for oyur GPU , the gpu could easily be slipping out of the socket even a millimeter, once this happens ... anything could cause a OS crash, a slight surge of heavy gameplay mid game or any other random increase in powerdraw from the faulty mounted equipment
my suggestion.... get a damp rag (static electricity is your worst enemy).... open up your panel.... wash your hands with the rag (DAMP not soaking just ... damp) ... then with one hand on the metal CASE (this is your ground off when you grab your case by the metal) then use your free hand to check all wires/cables/equipment for loose fits or improper mounting
and you might want to pick up CPUID its a free program that allows you to completely run diagnostics on your cpu / ram / mobo, i mean this thign gives yo active read outs of your north bridge and south bridge activity use that information from CPUID and try to compare those specs with what the specs are supposed to be
Source of info
Had a A+ certification for close to 3 years.... been meaning to renew it but havent yet
That's what I call a pleasant job... I wonder how many guys were on a shift then. But seriously, did you bring them like EVERY computer component, that is used while its normal work? Cables, keyboard, monitor, etc. It's a lot of stuff to move around, but even these might screw something up. Best would be to check it on your own. When I bought my pc two years ago operating system didn't want to load properly and most probably cause of it was... keyboard. Of course it didn't mess up anything when brought again to a store, everything worked perfectly. I noticed that even after unplugging keyboard still had some power in it... for a good while. To this day I'm not sure if this was the case. Keyboard was two times "repaired" or they gave me new, same model after second reclamation. Might sound funny, but for few weeks I was affraid to plug it in again... anything similar never occured again. I was working on some old one in a meantime, which didn't cause any problems.
QUOTE (Trojan•Clinique @ Nov 8 2011, 08:06 PM)
@ Jan 12 2012, 08:16 AM)
Denshin is a rather overpowered class.
QUOTE (Lucas
We're currently working on making Denshin less OP.
Now, if I were to assume, though, I'd exclude the Power Supply Unit since if you had problems with that you'd be skipping the BSODs and going straight to the shutdowns. I had a really bad PSU for a while which would shut my PC down at the minimum load.
Now, what - to me at least- sounds more likely is RAM. Not faulty, of course, but it might be incompatible with the motherboard you're using, or it might simply be pushed too much due to BIOS issues (but I at least wanna assume the shop checked that). I had this on the old PC: I'd get random BSODs ever since I replaced the old RAM modules I had with 2x2GB ones (mind you, I'm on 2x4GB on the new PC, but this is a detail).
Before anything, though:
- Does the computer restart automatically when the BSOD pops up? If yes, do what's written in this article to avoid that happening.
- What error does the BSOD show? Write it down or something next time it happens, then write it to us here. That'll help with identifying the issue A LOT.
- What's your motherboard and RAM's name? Use CPU-Z to know this. Go in this tab to know the motherboard's name. Go in this one, instead to know the RAM's name/part number.
listen to oktober for sure as after reading his post he comented on things i was going to comment on after you checked to make sure everythign is mounting properly and non of mounts are faulty
by a faulty mount i mean things like the clips that hold your memory simms in place (ram) those plastic clips when you push the ram into the slot make sure it CLICKS no just fits nicely but it has to click otherwise it can and WILL move
(insert sarcasm here)
Okay so I'll write whatever goohickey that comes up next time I bluescreen, place your bets how long it takes before next one strikes.
Motherboard
Manufacturer: ASUSTeK computer inc.
Model: P8P67 LE
RAM
part number: PSD34G16002
UPDATE:
Bluescreen occured just 4 hours later.
STOP code: 0x0000001A
QUOTE (Trojan•Clinique @ Nov 8 2011, 08:06 PM)
@ Jan 12 2012, 08:16 AM)
Denshin is a rather overpowered class.
QUOTE (Lucas
We're currently working on making Denshin less OP.
But anyway:
- I checked the Post code error on Google. This is what came up. It's a MEMORY_MANAGEMENT error which pinpoints the problem to the RAM
- I checked Asus' website - The third download on this page tells me your RAM isn't supported. Unsupported doesn't always mean it's not gonna work, but just that... well, you might get stuff like what you're getting.
- Your RAM module is a PATRIOT ( http://www.patriotme...&id=1025&type=1 ), 4GB one. Not sure if you have just one or two of them. Let me know when you can.
Now, since everything seems to point to the RAM being unsupported, I advice you to get something supported to test it. I'm fairly sure everything will vanish after you do this.
I personally suggest Corsair RAM ( I have this RAM, which is pretty good and I paid it about 20 bucks less through my local Amazon. ). This one, though, isn't compatible for your motherboard.
I'm gonna try and find some suggestions to add in here, but I don't give you any guarantee. I'm sure others can help you too with this. Just keep in mind that you NEED to use THIS PDF as reference to see if it's supported or not.
but i basically told him everything you said already about 5 hours ago
even linked the same SIMM set
it is a definitive RAM problem, he has 8gigs and hes running w7, more than likely theof the 2 simms was DOA (dead on arrival) because remember he said its been occuring since day one
i say definitive but ill say their is a 5% percent chance that his HDD could be the source of it but that stop code is most prominently a sign that your memory simms are either not sitting proper in the slots, completely unsupported, or faulty/DOA
but yah hes really not to miffed about it he just wanted to share a story
(on a side note... i actually prefer gskill their ripjaw's are super solid... but corsair is second on the list)
edit. ps. he honestly wouldnt know what to do with the pdf and im pretty sure he doesnt really care that much about it as thats the impression he gave me
Going in order though:
- It being the HDD is a really small and probably unlikely chance.
- Memory not sitting properly in the slots? I'd say it's unlikely, otherwise the shop he went to about it must be managed by monkeys.
- Memory faulty/DOA? I'd say it's unlikely too, I'm fairly sure memtest86 would have found something about this otherwise.
- Incompatibility? The most likely one. Incompatibility happens on Day one and causes such issues.
For the rest, whether he cares or not, it's still good to have the solution at hand if one day he wants to get it fixed... don't you think?
you got to be joking right....?
its the most common occuring memeory problem out there when it comes to prebuilts
and no memtest would not pick it up if it was only 1 sim that was doa
remember he bought this as a prebuilt pc... prebuilts just dont end up right half the time
and ram that isnt properly seated will give you the same stop code you have to have a A+ certification to do the work that his shop does
and common procedure is TO CHECK YOUR HARDWARE FIRST
My experience with shops was generally pretty bad ( I had this shop where I brought my PC a few years back that didn't even block in the CPU cooler like he didn't even know how to do it), which is why I tend to do things in-home. I also dislike prebuilt PCs because of how pumped the price is compared to getting every component separatedly and getting it assembled/assembling it... BUT this is completely unrelated!
Also, what do you mean my ram is "not supported"?
QUOTE (Trojan•Clinique @ Nov 8 2011, 08:06 PM)
@ Jan 12 2012, 08:16 AM)
Denshin is a rather overpowered class.
QUOTE (Lucas
We're currently working on making Denshin less OP.
you got ocelot and oktober having a nice little discussion so you can definitely see that it works :]
...but i can see only one ultimate solution...
QUOTE (Trojan•Clinique @ Nov 8 2011, 08:06 PM)
@ Jan 12 2012, 08:16 AM)
Denshin is a rather overpowered class.
QUOTE (Lucas
We're currently working on making Denshin less OP.
Not being a cigarette-smoking coala must be a pretty shirley though.