Projectiles in PVK2

Dr. O · January 2013

I wanted to use this sourcemod plugin here:

http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=204418

It is supposed to view a thrown projectile from the projectile`s prespective, which can be fun to check out as I think. (View rifle headshots from the bullet`s perspective

)

Now the thing is in PVK2 nothing happens, I tried all throwable things, arrows, kegs, bullets, trinkets, ... but nothing works.

I asked about that on the sourcemod forums and the plugin author replied:

"The plugin as it stands hooks entities with a _projectile suffix; it's possible that in PVK2, projectile entities don't follow that naming convention."

Maybe some dev can tell me what the problem is, then I would forward that and the plugin could possibly be fixed to work for PVK2, too.

Cap1 · January 2013

That could actually be very sweet to watch, Sniper Elite V2 kinda.
Can be great for videos as well.

Nice initiation doc, hope to see this happening.

yush · January 2013

That would be entertaining and fun but completely useless cause of intense action and lack of control while watching projectile, so i suggest to make it switchable.

Maybe solution is as simple as it stands in plugin' author's answer - rename plugin projectile suffix to match the actual pvk projectile suffix? Are You able to find it or need a dev's help?

I would love to see that

Bluehardt · January 2013

Maybe there would be even possibility to move camera slightly back and see part of projectile (similar to Chivalry: MW). I agree with yush, it should be switchable.

As for usefulness - most projectiles in pvk fly at pretty high speeds, camera view wouldn't take long to finish. Would be good in training and for stationar rangers, not so helpful for mobile ones.

Dr. O · January 2013

Thanks for the feedback. You are right, the plugin is useless for serious play.

Nevertheless, it comes with many differerent settings as to camera angles (I think) and things like that, and it is of course switchable by a chat command.
I can then restrict that command to certain people or make it public, like I did with the grab-beam plugin (The Force).

My purpose to use it is just for fun, the same goes for the grab plugin. We can use stuff like that when we have only VIPs on the server so no one can rage, you know..

I really think this could be fun in pvk, here's a demo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgX010ufA48&feature=youtu.be

Denshin · January 2013

Some times when I play archer I tend to pull out my crossbow, stand from a far distance and aim into a doorway where I notice a lot of fighting is going on. Obviously I'm not going to be able to lead targets from just being able to see the doorway, so I launch off quick shots and reload right after, just taking lucky guesses.

Once in a while it hits or kills people, would be quite fun to see how the bolt traveled in that scenario. Quite a cool plugin! Makes you feel even more proud over your l33t aiming skillz.

Dr. O · January 2013

Yeah, but it doesn't work. I need to know how projectiles / entities are handled in pvk2 so I can forward that info

simius · January 2013

cool man
dead people would've time to watch it, implement it as a killcam as well :emot-awesome:

ThatOneBox · January 2013

this is very interesting, i think out should only be for certain things though...like maybe javelins, SS rifles and archer specail/crossbow

Ocelot · January 2013

hey dr ill take alook ove rthe source and see if i can adjust it for the projectiles in this mod

shouldnt be to hard just classifying the hooks

ill post in here when i figure it out

CrackaPolly · January 2013

our projectiles have no prefix/suffix :emot-awesome:

they are just what you'd expect the projectile to be called like 'arrow' for longbow projectile 'javelin' for javelin projectile, etc. The way it hooks it is probably string comparing name to see if contains prefix/suffix, so could just be changed to string compare against the set of names for projectiles

Dinah · January 2013

i want a parrot camera

yush · January 2013

i want parrot - simulator possibility!

O__o

Dr. O · January 2013

CrackaPolly wrote:

our projectiles have no prefix/suffix

they are just what you'd expect the projectile to be called like 'arrow' for longbow projectile 'javelin' for javelin projectile, etc. The way it hooks it is probably string comparing name to see if contains prefix/suffix, so could just be changed to string compare against the set of names for projectiles

Thanks. Forwarded. Maybe the guy will be cool and make it work for pvk2.

Ocelot wrote:

hey dr ill take alook ove rthe source and see if i can adjust it for the projectiles in this mod

shouldnt be to hard just classifying the hooks

ill post in here when i figure it out

Cool man, tell me if you find out anything more.

Dinah wrote:

i want a parrot camera

You're a nab

Wintersunn · January 2013

Parrot cam sounds interesting indeed!

Dr. O · January 2013

Dunno, if the plugin will work for "arrow", "javelin" ... maybe also for "parrot" ?

The plugin author said he will make it work, I just need now a complete list of all entity/projectile names. Can someone give it to me or where can I get it?

ThatOneBox · January 2013

arrow
bullet
javelin
axe
bolt
parrot
rifle bullet

..just guessing. he said it would what you think it's called, so....

Bluehardt · January 2013

Lonyops wrote:

arrow
bullet
javelin
axe
bolt
parrot
rifle bullet

..just guessing. he said it would what you think it's called, so....

I wonder if bullets for hitscan weapons even exist, because of an instant hit. Better patiently wait for one of developers to confirm proper projectiles names or at least an info about place where to find these.

ThatOneBox · January 2013

yeah dog

Dr. O · January 2013

I need to be sure about the names. Otherwise I would bother that plugin guy x times with that.

I can`t guess if it`s rifle bullet, rifle_bullet, rifleBullet, just bullet or anything else.

ThatOneBox · January 2013

sooooOoOooOoo....devssss.....how ya doin? can we get a response here? i'd REALLY like to see this in the game.

Dr. O · January 2013

I already got help on the sourcemod forums about how to get all entities of pvk. It's in progress.

Anyways, I'd appreciate any additional info because it may be of help, especially regarding the parrot. They told me its npc. But what is npc?

Cap1 · January 2013

Non player character

Ocelot · January 2013

fack that means the parrot cam would have to be a remote player model viewer like spectate is for the regular pc's (player characters)

you would have to script a WHOLE new type of function for that, but its possible... just not with in the parameters of this add on though

makes sense the parrot is a NPC thought because of his roaming/targeting nature

good stuff keep it up, i blew up my mind trying to figure out how to approach this from the pvkii stand point

Dr. O · January 2013

Ocelot wrote:

fack that means the parrot cam would have to be a remote player model viewer like spectate is for the regular pc's (player characters)

you would have to script a WHOLE new type of function for that, but its possible... just not with in the parameters of this add on though

makes sense the parrot is a NPC thought because of his roaming/targeting nature

good stuff keep it up, i blew up my mind trying to figure out how to approach this from the pvkii stand point

You should become a sourcemod plugin writer, then

There is some guy who made a plugin for pvk, though, about captured chests filling your special bar. I have seen that one some servers. Maybe I should request the parrot view by asking him to make it.

Ocelot · January 2013

Dr. O wrote:

You should become a sourcemod plugin writer, then

There is some guy who made a plugin for pvk, though, about captured chests filling your special bar. I have seen that one some servers. Maybe I should request the parrot view by asking him to make it.

thank you !

ive been thinking about it

would be a good way of getting my scripting hand back into focus

ill think of some nice easy first plugins to make

ThatOneBox · January 2013

make a plugin in that makes the arrows do different amount of damage based on where it hits the body....only for the archer though. might balance it out when 3 or 4 players all stack and archer and then theres 2 on each other team that are new to the game...

Dr. O · February 2013

I still don't want to give up on this, so here's the news.

Shepdude (the author of this plugin) wrote this piece of code in order to make it also work for pvk:

public OnEntityCreated(iEntity, const String:classname[])
{
if(g_cvarEnable)
{
  if(g_IsPvk)
  {
   if( StrEqual(classname, "arrow") ||
	StrEqual(classname, "javelin") ||
	StrEqual(classname, "crossbow_bolt") ||
	StrEqual(classname, "projectile_rocketball") ||
	StrEqual(classname, "powderkeg") ||
	StrEqual(classname, "projectile_powderhorn") ||
	StrEqual(classname, "throwaxe") ||
	StrEqual(classname, "npc_parrot") )
	SDKHook(iEntity, SDKHook_SpawnPost, OnEntitySpawned);
  }
  else if(StrContains(classname, "_projectile") &#33;= -1)
   SDKHook(iEntity, SDKHook_SpawnPost, OnEntitySpawned);
}
}

And that's what he said:

"I assume the keyvalue "m_hOwnerEntity" exists for those entities if there are no errors, and I'm pretty sure sdktools' SetClientViewEntity just changes the value of "m_hObserverTarget", which should be the same across games."

But for some reason, it does not do anything for any projectile, except for the skirmisher's keg: It changes one's perspective to the keg's perspective, but the keg just falls down to the ground in slow motion when thrown.

So obviously something is wrong with the code. Can some of you devs help us with that matter?

Ocelot · February 2013

their has to be something wrong with the entity name then if the whole thing is compiling and allowing you to do it with the keg it would seem as though its just not finding the other entities

Dr. O · February 2013

Possible, but the keg story doesn't work properly either: you can't really throw it, it just goes down in slow motion and kills you because it changed perspective and you can't move then.

Dinah · February 2013

I remember getting all the weapons to work a couple of rounds on arena, problem was that it tracked all of the enemies weapons as well, even the falling rocks from the volcano counted as projectiles

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