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Perspective · December 2012

got kicked for "pp whoring" what the actual fridge?

Wintersunn · December 2012

Was it on that "pony" server? I heard of it, don't play there.

There is an admin abusing his power and randomly slaying people.

Perspective · December 2012

yeah really bad server never gonna play there again

Ocelot · December 2012

how can you perfect parry whore? if hes getting perfect parried so many times... maybe he should switch class to gain the upper hand in weapon size

what a douche bag

I dont like to admin this way and people who randomly get admin on servers just have a hard on for fridgeing with people

If hes a global admin i wouldnt even consider the server on the list anymore becuase if one of the global or root admins is doing this, your boned in the sence of heirarchy

sorry to hear about this just makes me sad that admins are pushing populations outa servers when this game needs as many people playing as it can!

Crackpunch · December 2012

Convict gaming in disguise?

Lucas · December 2012

The best idea ever was to give Convict gaming rant threads their own subforum.

Denshin · December 2012

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Pro legit tactix in action

He "warned" me to not parry excessively, after the -first- time I actually parried him. Silly boy, never heard of fully charged swings did you?

Paladin · December 2012

Denshin wrote:

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He froze me and said "he was just for fun " while playing as a Skirm. Then he ganged up with his archer buddy against me with only three of us on the server.

Rainbolt · December 2012

I might be that "Power-Hungry" admin you are talking about. I am ashamed to say,but all of this is correct. I've never been admin on a previous server and I was warned for my abuse aswell. It's just like when you get the game you want for christmas, you try it out all you can, this maximized when my host game me the "Smite" command a couple of days ago. After all of this you probably don't think I care about my community nor my players, however I do a lot. All I wanted was a revolutionary server which differs from all other servers, in a good way that is. I am sorry for all of this. Even though most of you probably don't care about my apology and will "Flame" me, it's okay, I deserve it.

Sorry.

Dr.Cleric · December 2012

Rainbolt wrote:

I might be that "Power-Hungry" admin you are talking about. I am ashamed to say,but all of this is correct. I've never been admin on a previous server and I was warned for my abuse aswell. It's just like when you get the game you want for christmas, you try it out all you can, this maximized when my host game me the "Smite" command a couple of days ago. After all of this you probably don't think I care about my community nor my players, however I do a lot. All I wanted was a revolutionary server which differs from all other servers, in a good way that is. I am sorry for all of this. Even though most of you probably don't care about my apology and will "Flame" me, it's okay, I deserve it.

Sorry.

Well said my friend I think he said it well others may disagree but I think this is a good apology.

Denshin · December 2012

I may not wish to find myself there in the future anyway, but that is a most honorable statement, sir.

yush · January 2013

I was warned either, and slapped couple of times also. I was also called "pp whore", and as someone said - it is cause of all HC members abusing PP.

WTF O__o

Still i thought it was bad joke. Now i see it was not. Still, as mates said - perfect apologize and i surely would come back to Your server, but i expect parrying - tolerance

Cheerz

Rainbolt · January 2013

One of the reasons for ban of all HC members is due to their PP but mostly due to ddos and server removal threats, I did not take these decisions I am sorry.

Rules are rules.

It doesn't matter if you PP a couple of times by accident, just don't whore it a ton.

Bluehardt · January 2013

Rainbolt wrote:

It doesn't matter if you PP a couple of times by accident, just don't whore it a ton.

Few people already stated how to avoid being counterattacked. It's very good habit to charge your attack to the max. On the other hand - there is an achievement right now, which requires to kill people by swing after perfect parry.

Dinah · January 2013

Fully charge your weapon, problem solved.

Ocelot · January 2013

Dinah wrote:

Fully charge your weapon, problem solved.

this or if you cant fully charge hits well... switch to a class with a larger weapon lol

ThatOneBox · January 2013

the term "Parry Whore" died with 2.2

Wintersunn · January 2013

Rainbolt wrote:

[...] but mostly due to ddos and server removal threats

A year ago, one HC member called "turtle" threatened me to ddos my server if I won't unban him. I didn't do it and he crashed my server. I talked to the Clanleader Blade of Death who didn't do anything. HC contains besides few nice people just a bunch of kids who are randomly insulting and threatening people. Destroying gameplay by team stacking and rankwhoring.
I don't like them either. :>

Ocelot · January 2013

Perfect parrying if done with manual parry should not be a sign of someone abusing a system, it should be a badge of honor, as PP'ing with manual parry takes fast wits.

DDoS/DoS attacks can easily be prevented if the server is behind your private network, its as simple as going into the admin configuration for your router and checking the "Block Ip Flooding" or a similarly worded option www.portforward.com has a helpful HUGE list of router screenshots you can utilize to gain a better understanding of your router

on the other hand if your server is being hosted through a 3rd party such as legitservers or gameservers then you have to speak with the support staff of your respective 3rd party provider

but back on the PP topic, Perfect parry with auto-parry can be abused if you are a HK mainly, but only to a extent. You cannot perfect parry fully charged hits... you can how ever mitigate the dmg but the person will not be able to perform a perfect parry or a riposte of that parry. As well if your quote 'pp whoring' unquote opponent is using a class with a smaller weapon ie skirmisher, you can just use a class with a larger weapon.

But a sure fire way to stop your perfect parry problems is to always aim and time fully charged hits, as regular hits are only going to get yourself killed

ThatOneBox · January 2013

anyone who still uses the term parry whore is someone who can't let go of the past, or has no real understanding of the meaning behind the word.

KOKORONOKAWARI · January 2013

Rainbolt wrote:

It doesn't matter if you PP a couple of times by accident, just don't whore it a ton.

Fully charged swings/shield bash... change direction after a fully charged swing...

Ocelot · January 2013

i think i found where gestirs get their javelins from!

Crackpunch · January 2013

KOKORONOKAWARI wrote:

Fully charged swings/shield bash... change direction after a fully charged swing...

Are you saying they should adapt to a tactic being employed by their enemy?

Denshin · January 2013

Restricting a game's feature solely because someone just happen to find them annoying is personally, just completely bogus. If it really isn't working out then it would be alot more evident and in the end up to the devs to change it.

The skirmisher has, for example, a very high dps. If no blocking was allowed a skilled skirmisher could easily move in and out between a heavy knights slow swings and just gradually cut him down. At most points, it wont even be enough relying on timing your attacks to stay alive against Berserkers or Skirmishers, especially if outnumbered.

Bluehardt · January 2013

Another possibility is to force manual blocking on your server. It needs some practice to be used effectievely, but skilled players will have even bigger advantage over players not used to this way of blocking. Auto-parry is easy to use for everyone and it makes difference between fresh and experienced players smaller.

Denshin wrote:

Restricting a game's feature solely because someone just happen to find them annoying is personally, just completely bogus. If it really isn't working out then it would be alot more evident and in the end up to the devs to change it.

Ocelot · January 2013

Bluehardt wrote:

Auto-parry is easy to use for everyone and it makes difference between fresh and experienced players smaller.

WELL SAID!

yush · January 2013

Good point, guys. Force manual parry on server = problem solved. On the other hand i consider every server with no Friendly Fire and no forced Manual Parry enabled, a nooobish server, or in the other words, the server on which every new player feels relatively good comparing to experienced players.

Of what i know all HC members (or those i play with and know) has 'manual parry always" option enabled in settings, including me. So telling me "hey, you are abusing pp" is the same as telling me "hey, you are too good for us, get lost".

If You ask me, enabling auto perfect parry should not be an option. One or other way you can block hits always, and even if a player suck, sometimes he can accidentaly pp a hit. The same thing with FF - without it pirates are much OP cause their own explosives dont hurt them and gives them tremendous advantage over other factions (show me a knight killing 4 enemies with one swing - which is easy to do with keg).

The thing is most of experienced players simply block incoming hits while new players are trying to or not doing it at all. Understanding a mechanics is everything and every player after couple hours of playing should get a hang of parrying. Watching Denshin's tutorial videos should be obligatory.

Peace, guys

Denshin · January 2013

Wouldn't even need my tutorial, all a new player really needs to do is to go into options and check his controls, then create a server and just try things out in peace on his own until he feels comfortable on the controls and features. Sadly, extremely few do this, instead they decide to hop right into the action with little to often no preparations. This bothers me a ton xD

ThatOneBox · January 2013

they probably are not aware that they can even do that. However, if it's possible, we should have a start up video like in l4d2, maybe a little tutorial video of some sort...maybe the community could make one, like a little project. then, once we have come to an agreement, let the dev's publish it? just a though, it COULD work though...might also help strengthen the community, and let the devs continue their work in peace.

yush · January 2013

Checking controls is not all imho, Densh. Lonyops could be right. To be true - most of the new community consists of young players mostly familiar to shooters. They have no idea of charging, blocking, momentum or parrying, cause all they probably do till meeting pvk is shooting and walking.
You yourself know the best how more important is even jumping than it is in CS for example.

In my opinion Your tutorials should be obligatory

Btw. i hope You are not mad at me? :F

Rainbolt · January 2013

Please,explain to me how having to charge a full weapon attack with a must-hit time within a second and attack then deal 5 damage is not overpowered. There is a reason why the PP system is getting changed in the next update with Man At Arms.

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