Issue with shields in PVKII.

edited 12:53AM in Suggestions
Perhaps it has to do with lag, because lately PVKII, and PVKII alone is lagging terribly.

The shield on a huscarl today was so OP, all he had to do was shield bash me constantly. No skill, no strategy, just tap the left click.

The simple thing to do would be to break the shield, right? Well, that seems pretty impossible.

I can't jump back or outrun the shield, because my blocking stance slows my movement speed down; Keeping me from being able to move away fast enough, and with certain people, the reach of the shield is as long as my HK's two handed sword or longer.

As soon as I go out of blocking mode to jump back or run, I'm bashed and stunned and further can not maneuver away, and don't have enough time to even start an attack because HK's swing is so slow.

The HK's block does absolutely nothing against the shield, it is completely worthless. And if I can't even manage to get far enough to swing at the shield, how am I supposed to break it.

Same person was able to shield bash me, without charging, even when I had my shield out. Perhaps they have played PVKII so much, that they know how to dodge the hitboxes even while being face to face.

Can't say I have that much free time, and I don't think any casual gamer would either.

Maybe this works flawlessly in testing, and it is just when there is lag.

If the shield system is not glitched or OP, then it would be nice if someone could explain what I could do in that situation against that player, cause it actually ruins the fun of the game, when someone can just tap left click on you, and you don't get the fun of parrying or actually playing.


  • KOKORONOKAWARIKOKORONOKAWARI Funny Little Japanese Drawing Person Senior
    edited May 2012
    Edit: nm this probably explains it for everyone else

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  • DMXDMX Senior
    edited May 2012
    It's not just his lag issues causing it. The whole shieldbash is just a joke. I don't even understand how it could pass the testing. When you bash too soon after your previous bash, you don't get a counter-attack. rate,lag,ping issues giving shield-bashers twice the range sometimes. A Gestir can totally outplay a Heavy Knight by shieldbashing & using his counter-attack. He won't be able to get away unless he can jump on a high object of some sort. That is, when the gestir knows what hes doing and made the mistake of not jumping directly towards him after each counter-attack. He doesn't really have to know what he's doing if he has just this slight advantage over someone else when it comes to range. How annoying must it be if your opponent is much closer to your screen when it doesn't even show you that he his on your own screen. These kind of things are what happens on a daily basis now in 2.4. ' Let me just fire up my Utorrent, you're going down boy! '

    Seeing the craziest things ever, experiencing double- tripple reach HK specials while on the same ping or only 30 ping difference. lol?

    Best thing you can do when someone shield bashes you is jump either over his head and switch over to shield. Unless you know he doesn't have this odd range or is a dinahy.
  • shayologoshayologo Senior
    edited May 2012
    Shield bash range is just to much big

    And shield resistance against projectile is just to weak

    An HK or gesdir can doing exactly same with a shield, 123 is a specialiste for this shield tactic, you can never escape you are always stun

    Jump with shield remove speed malus, so you can always bash someone after basing him
  • ZinuXZinuX Mutated Walrus Hamster Members, Beta Tester
    edited May 2012
    Shield bash has been reworked in the new update, it won't be as abusive as before.

  • DenshinDenshin Beta Tester, Authorized Creator
    edited May 2012
    Until then, what I've done is having tried timing the intervals between his bash on my block, when the bash hits and is blocked, I get out of block and try to jump back and instantly block again. This at least gives me the chance to manouver around a bit until I'm out of the danger zone.

    QUOTE (Trojan•Clinique @ Nov 8 2011, 08:06 PM)
    Denshin is a rather overpowered class.

    QUOTE (Lucas =) @ Jan 12 2012, 08:16 AM)
    We're currently working on making Denshin less OP.

  • DMXDMX Senior
    edited 12:53AM
    Yeah, thats pretty much your only option but sadly people will catch up with you if ur doin that as HK. Another tip would be to block your opponent's bash and bash him right after that as fast as you can, usually works and gives you the counter-attack to hit him.
  • CelestiaCelestia Senior
    edited May 2012
    maybe it's just me but i don't see how they are overpowered...maybe it's because im biased and an avid shield user. i really hope the nerf doesn't make them useless again....theres nothing better than taking out 3 HKs as a gestir aha.
  • ZinuXZinuX Mutated Walrus Hamster Members, Beta Tester
    edited 12:53AM
    There is a small downtime between using shieldbashes, but shieldbashes also contribute to the specialbar.
    (or was the latter already implemented? I fail to remember)
  • CelestiaCelestia Senior
    edited 12:53AM
    they contribute to the specail bar but they only do like 3-7 damage. as long as the range isn't getting nerfed, i can handle the downtime
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