Idea for a map (pvk_piratefort or something)

Geleia · September 2009

Maybe a map made by the community, not a member

I was reading an old thread and I was thinking about a Pirate defense map.

I had nothing to do in my maths class today, so I've made some drawings and something.

My idea is to make this map, not by me or someone else, but with some people of the community. Some of us would have the .vmf and make some of the map.

So, someone is good at displacements, then he will do the displacements. The other is good at details, so he'll do the details. Something like that.

Here are the drawings, it's a simple map, but I think it would be fun to play.

http://lzzbr.com/geleia/mapa.png
http://lzzbr.com/geleia/mapa2.png
http://lzzbr.com/geleia/mapa3.png
http://lzzbr.com/geleia/mapa4.png

New ideas are welcome. If you want to help with the map, let's talk about it. I'm not very good at anything, but I can do the basics and some advanced in hammer and i can be in the testing and ideas part ;D

Mason · September 2009

I could do entity work. If any is needed.

J-co · September 2009

I like it.

Jasher · September 2009

I would be willing to do the displacement work. and perhaps I could create the main layout for you guys.

recently I have discovered some new techniques for making displacements

Jasher · September 2009

also from the looks of it the pirates don't have very good defenses.

the broken walls shouldn't be broken at first but should be in good condition and the vikings and knights should have to break them.

also is this a booty game mode or a push objective?

but instead of broken walls perhaps their should be gates because so far I see only one gates on the fort

Geleia · September 2009

Well, that's why I asked your opinion.

So, gates are better. Now you say I see that it's really better.

This should be booty. There's not so much booty maps I like (forgotten is the only one), so I was thinking in making this booty map.

The drawings are not in right scale, this could be modified, like adding a longer distance between the knights/vikings respawn point to the fort and making the fort smaller, making the pirates job easier.

Jasher · September 2009

QUOTE (Geleia @ Sep 30 2009, 07:46 PM) »

Well, that's why I asked your opinion.

So, gates are better. Now you say I see that it's really better.

This should be booty. There's not so much booty maps I like (forgotten is the only one), so I was thinking in making this booty map.

The drawings are not in right scale, this could be modified, like adding a longer distance between the knights/vikings respawn point to the fort and making the fort smaller, making the pirates job easier.

well don't forget that pirates like running in open areas so I think their fort should at least be medium sized

also when I make plans for my maps on a sheet of paper, I use A grid sheet of paper which helps me decide how big the map will be.

but sadly I didn't use this technique when planning my pvk_parrot_play-house and my pvk_darkland maps

Geleia · September 2009

there could have something making the access to the booty harder too

Mason · September 2009

You could use gates of the style in my map siege_longship.

Jasher · September 2009

ya it would be nice if you would contribute that.

Jasher · September 2009

ok so far I have been doing some sizing experiments with the basic layout of the map and I am not sure of we need to have 4 buildings in the fort.

also can the players go inside these buildings or are they just props?

Geleia · September 2009

As I said, it's for suggestions. There's no need for the 4 buildings. They are there just as an example. Everything in the drawing is passive of changes.

Hei · September 2009

what is that, Juno beach?

and why is cheese room crossed off?

edit: never mind the dday ref, I can see I was just looking at it wrong

ZinuX · October 2009

I could do displacement work...

Jasher · October 2009

QUOTE (ZinuX @ Oct 1 2009, 07:49 AM) »

I could do displacement work...

hey I offered to do displacement work.

but instead of doing displacement work I could work on detailing work and layout work instead.

ya that's probably better because I have seen Zinux displacement skills before and I think he would do a better job at that.

PS I would also be willing to help make the 3dskybox

also another thing we need to think about is optimization.
so far the map is designed in a way that will make most of the map drawn at once.

so we either need to make the map smaller than planned or design it in a way that is well optimized which will mean changing the layout a little.

Mason · October 2009

Right now I can't really visualize what the map will look like. Would you mind drawing out on one picture what the general layout is? It doesn't have to be pretty.

Geleia · October 2009

More images, now focusing more in the Pirates fort and the whole map. Remembering that those are only ideas. This should give you a better view of the look of the map Mason.

http://lzzbr.com/geleia/mapa5.png
http://lzzbr.com/geleia/mapa6.png
http://lzzbr.com/geleia/mapa7.png

so?

Mason · October 2009

That is much more clear! Thanks.

Jasher · October 2009

well so far the layout looks nice and the map doesn't look too big so hopefully we won't have to worry about optimization.

Jasher · October 2009

ok here are some pics of my work so far on the fort.

also the textures I used I can change if not liked.

im also planning on creating the main layout of the map

I think this map perhaps would be better as a night map.
since we have hardly any night maps for pvk2.

also this is just the basic stuff I assure you this will look way better when completed.

ZinuX · October 2009

I say dawn or dusk.

Mason · October 2009

Interesting start, I'm thinking it would be better if it were a small pirate town with a wall/gates. More enclosed streets and a bit larger.

Jasher · October 2009

QUOTE (Mason @ Oct 6 2009, 03:01 PM) »

Interesting start, I'm thinking it would be better if it were a small pirate town with a wall/gates. More enclosed streets and a bit larger.

ok well do you think you could quickly make the fort the size you would like and then send it back to me?
here is the vmf
http://two.xthost.info/xen/piratefort.zip

also feel free to make any extra changes.

Mason · October 2009

It seems perfect size.

Jasher · October 2009

QUOTE (Mason @ Oct 6 2009, 05:35 PM) »

It seems perfect size.

ok its just you said it should be larger but ok now I suppose I will start working on the layout.

Mason · October 2009

Yeah it looked small in the screenshot, but I downloaded and decompiled and it looked pretty good sized.

Geleia · October 2009

I think that it should be dawn/day and raining. The map is small, so I think that the rain is not going to ruin the map...

Just one thing, the square parts of the wall should be a little higher than the wall

Jasher · October 2009

QUOTE (Geleia @ Oct 6 2009, 08:17 PM) »

I think that it should be dawn/day and raining. The map is small, so I think that the rain is not going to ruin the map...

Just one thing, the square parts of the wall should be a little higher than the wall

ok thanks for that.

also I have now completed the main layout of the map.

now I need to find someone willing to do displacement work on the map.

I'm hoping to get Zinux to do most if not all of the displacement work.

ZinuX · October 2009

I'm in

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Jasher · October 2009

ok I have sent the map to Zinux

when he is done with the displacement work I will work on detailing the fort.

ZinuX · October 2009

We need more people willing to participate, otherwise it would just be a map made by a 2 or so people.
A prop/texture artist would be nice, but not necessary.

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